their heads. >> exactly. i talked to coach ron rivera after the panthers' game last night, and they left charlotte not knowing. they were ready to defer whatever the chiefs decided to do. they didn't even know the a alternati alternatives. all they knew it was undecided and they'd find out when they got to kansas city and they did. >> whatever you think about him as a quarterback, the way brady quinn conducted himself before that game and then after the game especially, that's real leadership. forget what happens on the football field. the way he carried himself yesterday was remarkable. >> and his comments about relationships and how we're more caught up in our phones than we are the people in front of us, that's something, you need to print it out, laminate it and carry it around. we get so distracted by the devices in our pockets, we don't pay attention to people who are with us. >> and the chiefs did win the game. but as you said, the only thought right now is for that three-month-old girl named zoe who's going to grow up without her parents. we'll try to talk about some football if